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ICE DIVING: OUR RULES OUR WAY

Today's blog is actually from 2 notes I have written to divers with little to no experience diving around here as far as I know but who ironically both held the rating of Rescue Diver.

I seem to get a lot of these inquiries this time of year, so if you don't mind what I've done is attached the last replies I've sent the divers as we teach a very different, very modern, very safe version of diving here and this is the third inquriry for ice/drysuit as a combination course.

Ice diving is the most serious form of diving you could get into due to the colder water which can freeze up your regs causing freeflow, can freeze your inflators shooting you up to the surface. It's a more treacherous environment than a cave and yet the narrow minded uneducated dive shops in the country let divers in wetsuits and single tanks jump in because they feel that if a problem arises they can find the way out because they are tethered.

To be honest with you I wouldn’t do an ice course/drysuit combination only because we teach ice diving a little differently……and well diving for that matter differently.

Ice diving is a course we’ve had more equipment failures and issues with than every other level of training combined. I’ve never had a student have a real failure in caves, inside shipwrecks, or on mixed gas dives 250ft down.

To us we view Ice diving as a serious specialty, which is the reason agencies like NAUI have moved it in under the technical diving umbrella of their agency. Ice is an overhead environment which you cannot surface directly out of, making it as treacherous or worse than any cave or shipwreck, therefore similar training principles must be used.

We offer the most modern and most progressive diver training you’re going to find anywhere and I can’t wait to show you just how different our diving instruction, skills and equipment configuration are compared to what’s presently being taught by 95% of the dive stores worldwide, but I don’t feel that Ice diving is the course to do that with.

When we teach ice students must be in drysuits, utilizing double tanks and must be proficient in skills to that of a NAUI Intro to Tech diver, which is the most monumental course any recreational or technical diver can take. We really address proper posture, trim, buoyancy in the water, as well as equipment configuration, familiarity, team diving concepts and more.

In order to dive under the ice divers need to be proficient in emergency drills involving isolation or shutting down of a failed first or second stage regulator as well.

A training progression that would be more beneficial to you might be to look at the Intro to Tech program and Cavern Diver which we’ll be doing in Florida in February. Upon successful completion of those courses, you would have the tools necessary to safely engage in ice diving.

We normally do Ice Diving with 1 day of class/pool, 3-4 dives in open water with an additional 3 dives under the ice. It’s a very intensive course and requires a bit more than just doing the basic PADI 3-4 dive requirements.

By using the right gear, practicing all the emergency procedures and knowing the fin techniques, valve skills, air sharing options and all the rest you’ll be a much safer and much better diver.

We teach the doing it right method in all of our courses from open water on, giving our customers the opportunity to be the best divers in the water.

I’ve attached some skill information that we would expect you to have a handle on prior to the ice programs.



We have tons of information available on our website as well as some great videos to outline how you should look in the water, equipment configuration differences, streamlining of the gear and more. www.dansdiveshop.ca

I’ve also attached 2 photos 1 of a traditional experienced diver and 1 of one of our new divers and I’m sure you’ll see a difference in posture, hose lengths, position in the water as our equipment configuration keeps the diver horizontal on the bottom, knees are up, fins are at the highest point of the diver, whereas most divers using an outdated configuration like a jacket bcd or ill fitting bc generally look like the silty diver with a more vertical orientation in the water and hoses dangling and hanging all over the place. The other pic is of a technical diver with proper trim and buoyancy wearing double tanks.

Our methodology here at Dan’s is that every diver should learn the right skills and gain the right knowledge from day 1, so we teach all over Canada, the USA and many exotic places. Divers from all over the country fly or drive down to train here or fly us out to them. We are not your normal dive store and have created an incredible niche as a result of that.

I could easily say yes, I’ll take your $ but I want you to be aware that there is a lot more to diving than just “making it out of the hole” alive and with most stores allowing dive students to dive in cold water or ice classes with a single tank jacket bcd, no redundancy, inappropriate fins, vertical diving posture, non standardized equipment, lack of proper lighting and letting them dive with bcd inflators hooked up, it makes our courses stand out that much brighter because we focus on the safety and extras that few if any consider to think about.

Hopefully this isn’t too overwhelming for you, but I do want you to be as prepared for diving here as possible.

Please take the time to read through our blog info, and check out our videos on vimeo. There are 2 new one’s I haven’t published to the website that help showcase proper techniques at the double tank end of things, but the same trim, posture, buoyancy and fin techniques are used for our open water divers too. Check out our photo gallery and you can see that discipline in the single tank diver photos as well.

If you have any questions, please don’t hesitate to contact me or one of our staff...then I closed off the email.

What I want to elaborate on the fact that there are a lot of dive stores offering courses they have no business teaching, either through lack of experience on their parts, education on their parts, proper equipment, proper mindset of they just plain shouldn't dive!

I got a very interesting reply from one of our friends as I shared this among my diving peers before posting it publically on our website and this is a very typical response that I get from people who take an ice diving course: I agree that it's one of those situations that screams for equipment failure especially freeflow. I did my ice course a couple of years ago with a shop that shall not be named but it was the PADI Ice course where we wore a harness with a rope attached with tenders on the ice. Everyone was in singles and some were in wetsuits. Mine was the only reg that didn't freeflow (at the time I was using a sherwood blizzard). Being a more experienced diver now I look back on that and shake my head at what could've gone wrong diving in an overhead environment with a single tank and no other redundancy. Thanks Matt for producing better prepared divers.

Slowly we're changing the industry 1 diver at a time and with like minded students past and present and our divers it makes this process that much more efficient. Thanks to all of our divers who shared their feedback and opionions with us.

Unless divers can maintain a position of 10% midline, fin using an anti-silting kick forwards and backwards, as well as to turn underwater without using your hands, shut down a failed regulator and switch over to the alternate air source of a dual outlet redundant valve system, handle an out of air situation calmly, efficiently and effectively, have a thorough background in rescue diving techniques and posses all of the proper equipment to safely execute a dive under the ice divers should not ice dive.

Here are our course specifics for our ice diver program: CLICK HERE

Required Equipment: double tanks or high capacity single with an h-valve (doubles are preferred), 2 independant first and second stage regulators, 1 SPG on a 24-26" HP hose, no consoles, wrist mounted computers/compass, primary mask with nylong strap, backup mask highly recommended, primary dive light (canister highly recommended) with 2 backup lights (no breakable plastic switches, slide switches, locking switches), 2 line cutters or cutting tools, fins with springs heel strap, no snorkels (entanglement hazard), all hoses need to be streamlined and not sticking out as is normally the case with the traditional setup.

Here's a great example of your typical scuba diver. Not someone with his trim, fin technique or equipment configuration would be a good choice for ice diving, due to the fins down vertical posture which would silt out the underwater site.

Hoses are too long, has all the clips and gimmicks, thinks he's got great control in the water and he's having a great time, which is good, except for the danglies, fins in the silt and lack of awareness in the water this diver is a great diver I'm sure.

Most divers don't know what's missing in their diving education because they are unaware that there is a better way to dive.

Most divers don't know what they don't know because they haven't been shown the right way to dive.

I was a diver that dove like this back in the early 1990's when I started, because that was how we all did it.

It wasn't until the mid 1990's I started seeing diving differently and got more involved in deep and wreck diving, but even there I was still an old school diver with th wrong skills, equipment and understanding.

My re-education came in the late 1990's early 2000 when I started delving into the DIR philosophy, which I hadn't understood until I saw divers with much less experience and only a handful of dives start being taught in backplate/harness/long hose configuration.

That was the most pivotal turning point in my diving career.

 

 

The next several pictures illustrate how a balanced diver should look underwater. Knees up, fins up, horizontal posture, no silt. Diving like this is more efficient and will give the diver a much more streamlined swimming profile.

Divers need to be able to maintain this position at all times underwater.

We achieve this position by keeping the majority of our weight behind us, utilizing the right shaped buoyancy air cell and through practice and repetition of essential skills.

Divers need always be striving to improve themselves through skill development, repetition of skills, emergency procedures, continuing education and exploration.

They say nothing good comes easy in life, but scuba divers need to push themselves to be the best they can.

Ice diving is not for everyone, but some stores build on the social aspects of it and it's an "experience" a "thing to do" over the winter. The average diver has no idea of the dangers that lurk underneath this immovable mass of frozen water if the wrong situation were to come along at the wrong time.

Please take ice and all overhead environments seriously.

Going in "Just a little bit" to see what it's like has been a fatal mistake to hundreds of people that had no business going into an overhead environment without the proper training, redundancy and experience.

Thanks for stopping by.

See you underwater,


Matt Mandziuk
NAUI Technical Diving Instructor 45416
TDI Trimix Instructor 4767
PADI DSAT MSDT Instructor 207233
Manager
Dan's Dive Shop, Inc.
www.dansdiveshop.ca
matt@dansdiveshop.ca

 

 

 

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